Ortiz vs. Machida, Tito's nail in the coffin? What's next for Ortiz...

by Joe Schmitt 1/28/2008 4:25:00 AM
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Former UFC light heavyweight Tito Ortiz has confirmed that he will fight Lyoto Machida at UFC 85. This is really a double-edged sword for the UFC and for Ortiz himself. Let’s face it, Ortiz is a huge draw. Regardless of how you feel about his fighting style, he has the uncanny ability to sell fights. The problem is he also likes to publicly criticize his employers. The main question to the UFC is this: Is he worth the money?

Ruffled Feathers

Tito Ortiz has expressed his displeasure with the UFC and Dana White many times. The feud has gone so far that Ortiz actually asked for a sparring match against Dana White to be put in his contract. As we all know, Dana tried to use this opportunity to get some publicity for the UFC and get a few charities some money. Ortiz didn’t like this idea (he thought the UFC was pocketing the money), and he wanted his cut of the money that the UFC was supposedly making. Ortiz claimed that he had never heard that the money was being donated to a charity, and said the UFC blew the whole thing out of proportion. 

The real question here is what happened to Dana and Tito’s relationship? I really think it stems from Dana forcing Tito to fight Chuck. I think he felt betrayed by the UFC and Dana after they made it look like Tito wouldn’t fight Chuck, and that Tito was scared of him. I think Tito felt that Dana had basically “thrown him to the wolves” and was giving up on Ortiz.

Tito’s Competition

Outside of a controversial decision win over Forrest Griffin, what has Tito done for the UFC lately? Well, let’s look at his last 5 fights. He has the split-decision victory over Griffin, two wins against an over-the-hill Ken Shamrock, a TKO loss to Chuck Liddell, and a draw with TUF alum Rashad Evans. Not that stellar of a resume there.

Now let’s look at Tito’s pay for his last two fights. Against Chuck Liddell and Rashad Evans, Ortiz made $210,000 just for fighting. Obviously this doesn’t include his pay-per-view percentage or any bonuses, but according to those figures, it makes him the 4th highest paid athlete in the UFC (Chuck, Randy, Mirko “Cro Cop”). Tito has been reported as saying that he made well over a million dollars in his last two fights. 

Outside of his lackluster competition, Ortiz does something few others in the UFC can do: he sells a fight. Whether you love him or hate him, you will tune in to a Tito Ortiz fight. His fight with Chuck Liddell still holds the record for the most UFC pay-per-view buys. He does just the right amount of trash talking, and if he’s faced with the right opponent, he can outsell even the most competitive fights. Most people tune in hoping to see him get smashed, while others tune in to see how the drama will play out. Let’s take the Shamrock fight for example. Nobody in their right mind thought Ken had a chance at beating Ortiz, but they both created enough drama to make the fight interesting. There’s something to be said about Ortiz having the most watched fight in the UFC and it wasn’t even for a title.  The question is: does this ability to sell a fight make him worth more than what he’s currently getting paid?

My Take

I think that the UFC needs Tito Ortiz, and Tito Ortiz needs the UFC. Imagine a scenario in which Tito Ortiz leaves the UFC. There aren’t that many fights out there for him. Maybe a match with Babalu in Strikeforce? A rematch with Frank Shamrock in EliteXC? I can tell you this though, if Tito and Frank Shamrock ever do fight again, it could break many records. Both of those guys are absolutely amazing at what they do. They can sell a fight and they both give off professional wrestler personas. Those are two viable options, but can Tito be happy with being a second rate “champion”? 

Tito is a businessman, plain and simple. He has developed his own clothing line and turned it into a successful business. He’s had success on “The Celebrity Apprentice,” and he may use that mainstream success to carry over to MMA. However, it looks as though the UFC has given up on Ortiz. Matching him up against Machida, an elusive, defensive fighter that doesn’t speak English is all but the final nail in the coffin. Ortiz isn’t going to be able to hype this fight like he could against someone like Shamrock, Forrest Griffin, or even Rashad Evans. It looks as if the UFC is going to send Tito packing with what they hope will be a decisive loss to Lyoto Machida. 

What should Tito do?

As a fan of the sport, I’d love to see Tito stick with the UFC. Although I feel that his style is old and the game has somewhat passed him by, he can be an effective gatekeeper and still be a cash cow for the UFC. With the right matchmaking, he can still bring in a ton of pay-per-view revenue. What do you guys think, does Ortiz deserve a raise? Where does he go if he leaves the UFC? What kind of fights are out there for him? Will this hurt the UFC in the long run?

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January 29. 2008 03:36

While Tito certainly can draw money, my guess is that Lorzenzo (Since he is the one negotiating for Tito) is wondering if Tito is worth the hassle.

Even when Dana is taken out of the equation, there is clearly issues with Tito.

It is interesting to see that Tito still is able to use his feud with Dana despite not actually having anything to do with him.

Pay him more? Sure, I can see a little more. But it also sounds like he wants more say in who he fights. At this point in his career, he is likely going to be fighting up and comers. It sounds like he is not happy with that role.

Jeremy us

January 29. 2008 05:24

If Tito beats Machida, he'll have more bargaining power. I think the UFC may be wanting to see what happens. The real problem will be how much will Tito want if he does win? I'm sure it will be a ridiculously overpriced salary.

LR us

January 29. 2008 07:24

Its unquestionable that Zuffa is rooting for the rising Machida and hopes to make him a star by defeating a legend, but Zuffa is also aware that they can't determine the outcome of fights and would glady have Ortiz back into the title picture because of his drawing power. Its a win-win. Such is the genius of Joe Silva.

What I find laughable is Ortiz's recent comments on Fight Network radio about how he wants to fight for an org that will get behind him. Let's not forget that this isn't the first time Ortiz left the UFC much to the same tune. The UFC achieved even greater success and exposure without Ortiz and when Ortiz was given a gift by being a coach of TUF, he gladly accepted and achieved his biggest paydays to date.

If Ortiz wants to higher profile matches and wants to be the poster boy, he needs to convincingly rise above his peers (like his good "buddy" Chuck). He has no one to blame for that but himself and to complain that the UFC hasn't promoted him or given him opportunity to shine is just ridiculous and dishonarable.

GameCritics us

January 29. 2008 09:39

GameCritics, I totally agree with everything you have said. Like I said in my article, the game has passed Ortiz by. His striking is limited, his wrestling is average, and he just doesn't seem to have the fire he did in the old days.

The more I think about it, the more I think he's mentally damaged. He doesn't have the fire that he once did, and has shown a lack of aggressiveness in his past couple of fights.

Ortiz might go somewhere where he can make more money, but he'll never be taken seriously again.

J Schmitt us

January 29. 2008 10:51

It's also widely believed among many insiders like Big John and Joe Silva that Tito's back injuries are far more serious than he let's on. Its effectively robbed him of his ability to take down opponents at will, which was his signature in his prime.

GameCritics us

January 29. 2008 15:25

I believe Tito wasn't 100% when he fought Forrest, and even against Rashad he looked disinterested. It could be the back injury, as most people knew he had a bad back. However, if you watch either Chuck Liddell fight, you can see a different Ortiz. He looks focused, ready to fight, and even willing to engage with Chuck.

In his last few fights, he's been lethargic, and even hesitant. Maybe he has the Tim Sylvia game plan? Fight not to lose.

Either way, I hope that Tito fixes whatever is going on with him and comes back to the UFC. If he understands his role and understands that unless you win fights, you won't get a title shot. Stop this blaming Dana White for all of your problems. The reason he isn't getting title shots is because he hasn't beaten anybody who's anybody in his last few fights.

Let's hope for the best for Ortiz and the UFC.

J Schmitt

January 30. 2008 06:31

Tito on Hardcore Sports Radio said he wanetd a more high-profile fight than Machida. Notice he didn't say he wanted to fight the best or to contend for the title, which is ironic since Machida is the #1 or #2 ranked fighter. If the injures are true, I think Tito knows his days as a top ranked fighter are numbered and would prefer to fight in freakshow fights like with Shamrock rather than actual competitive ones.

GameCritics us

January 30. 2008 16:38

Oh, no doubt about it, Tito wants fights that draw PPV buys. He no longer has the talent to compete with the best of the best. But, he can always blame Dana White for him never getting a title shot. Right now, I don't think anyone wants to fight Machida. He is so elusive, and methodical, that to some, his fights come across as boring. However, he is still one of the best 205lbers in the world.

The more I've been thinking about this, the more I think Tito will probably leave the UFC and look for a megafight with Frank Shamrock. Will it be successful? That's hard to say right now. It could be very successful, but it could also be a flop.

I still think the UFC should keep Tito and match him up with guys that love to trash talk. Give him some fights with someone he can push, create drama, and increase PPV's for the company.

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