Not making weight needs tougher consequences...

by Leland Roling 6/6/2008 7:33:00 AM

Within the last couple of weeks, an issue has arose that usually hasn’t caused too much of a fuss in the past when it comes to weigh-ins. Fighters usually make their contracted weight since they are professional athletes and are being paid to cut down to their respective weight classes. Unfortunately for the fighters, fans, and promotions, not everyone is able to make weight as easily as the next person.

Today, Thiago Alves, who is scheduled to take on Matt Hughes in the UFC 85 main event, missed his weight by nearly 4 pounds. He weighed in at a bloated 174 pounds.

To most fans, four pounds may not seem like a lot of weight to stir the pot over. Four pounds can easily be overcome by a small amount of strength, but the bigger issue here is that Thiago cut down from a larger weight. Obviously, only cutting down to 174 is going to allow him to be a bit bigger come fight time. Will this be a factor? Probably not, and there are other issues that arise when a fighter doesn’t make weight.

The most important issue is professionalism. These are professional athletes being paid to make their weight, fight their fights, and make a lot of money doing so if they can be successful. In order to make those dreams a reality, each fighter must rely on their opponents to make their scheduled weights as well. In this case, Hughes agreed to take fight with the overage, but it’s likely he will get a cut of the purse.

I ask this question… at what point does someone speak up and ask why these fighters continually miss weight without further consequences. Do we seriously have to put up with Gina Carano missing her weight nearly every single fight?

My solution… multiple offenders should have an escalating scale of disciplinary action. While the purse percentage is a perfect way to hurt these fighters who are missing weight, making weight should be a priority as a fighter gets close to their fight date. Gina Carano is making some good money, and 10% here and there may not hurt her much. How about we push some percentage on top of that if she misses weight again and again? What if 50% of her purse was on the line? Would she make weight then? I would think it would be a huge priority then.

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June 6. 2008 17:19

Money is a big motivating factor but who knows what these fighters get behind the scenes especially when they are a big draw. I doubt Carano blinked an eye when her purse was cut. Shaw is probably giving her good bonuses.

Talkbets us

June 7. 2008 15:25

Leland, your pic of FatGirl is hilarious. Wait....is that Gina? LOL.
I agree with the strict penalties for repeat offenders. You've got to wonder whether Alves almost intentionally allowed himself to come in over. He knew they would go ahead with the bout because it was the main event, and he even had a smirk on his face at the weigh-in staredown. What's 10% of his pay when he's getting a $50,000.00 KO-of-the-night bonus?

Take 50% of their pay for a 1st offense, 90% for a 2nd offense, and 90% + a 6 month suspension for a 3rd offense. That would make guys take it more seriously.

(By the way, I think Alves would still have beat Hughes even if he had made weight, but it's unprofessional any way you cut it.)

Fred us

June 7. 2008 15:42

my 2 cents....

1st failure.... forfeit any and all win bonus, locker room bonus, KO/Fight/sub of the night bonuses to your opponent

2nd failure... make them move up a weight class or lose their contract

Don't want to make weight, thiago, then see you in the middleweight division...

robnashville us

June 8. 2008 10:58

Agree whole heartedly. It should be an escalating scale for repeat offenders. Any fighter missing a contracted weight shouldn't be given any kind of bonus for their 'performance'!,or be in line for a title shot either. All the talk in boxing of why it is such a serious threat to your opponent is completely lost to MMA.(yet martial artists are so intelligent and concerned for fighter safety) "Boxers have killed other boxers when they came in to heavy." I have heard this repeatedly, why is it not taken seriously at all in MMA? If you miss your weight more than once, you obviously aren't that weight. Move up.

fightgeek jp

June 9. 2008 08:08

My 2 cents...

Thiago Alves is a bitch. Stop taking diuretics...start making weight...stop being such an arrogant prick.

Eric us

June 11. 2008 05:54

Alves states that he was overweight because he was retaining water due to injecting a cortical steroid to reduce ankle pain.

When I had two in my elbow I never gained water weight, but different people react to steroid injections differently.

Ultimate Mind us

June 12. 2008 05:10

Hey Leland, you and your writers still alive?

Chuck ca

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