Iole doesn’t get it

by LR 4/9/2008 7:20:00 AM
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I won’t be as critical of Kevin Iole at Yahoo! Sports as many other writers have been in the past, but I’ve wholeheartedly agreed with nearly every single posting I’ve seen on Iole from time to time. He’s been blamed for being a troll in the UFC’s hype machine, a “nuthugger”, and teacher’s pet to Dana White, and for the most part, his writing on the UFC would definitely lead me to believe those claims. People also state he isn’t a real MMA fan or historian, and the list goes on at the number of insults I’ve heard in regular conversation with hardcore MMA fans. I don’t mind his writing, and I’m by far not the best writer in the blogosphere or in any sphere, but I can critique one opinion that he mentions in his mailbag regarding the CBS/EliteXC fight in May:

Question: I feel EliteXC is doing MMA a huge disservice by putting Kimbo Slice as the main event on such an important card. I am a huge Kimbo fan but, lets face it, he is still more of a spectacle at this point in his MMA career. Why not legitimize our sport by featuring a championship bout between two thriving middleweights, Robbie Lawler and Scott Smith? Both men have appeared on UFC cards in the past, both are legitimate MMA fighters, and both appear to be just as marketable to the general public as Kimbo. What’s your take?

Iole: I don’t have a problem putting Kimbo on the card, but I find it horrible he’s in the main event against James Thompson. How CBS would accept Thompson as the opponent in a main event is beyond me. The guy has lost two in a row and six of his last eight. It’s a disgrace that a guy with a record like that would be put into a main event of such a significant card in the sport’s history.

I find it unbelievably ignorant that Iole can’t see why James Thompson is fighting Kimbo Slice as the main event on this card. Yeah, it’s a crap fight to have as a main event when you think of it in terms of quality, but in terms of entertainment, Kimbo Slice is guaranteed to “tee off” on James Thompson’s world famous weak chin. Even if we look at the opposite outcome, James Thompson isn’t going in the cage to submit Kimbo via heel hook or gogoplata. He’ll also be looking for the big knockout. Thompson is also known for his exciting opening round charges that have grabbed the attention of fans everywhere.

Sure, Smith vs. Lawler is the quality matchup we as hardcore fans all want to see, but there is one concept here that many writers are ignorant when analyzing the fanbase. The fanbase isn’t you. If you are writing about MMA on a daily basis, the majority of fans out there have nowhere near the knowledge that you have when talking about these fights. Do you want to see the fanbase that EliteXC is trying to pull in?

Go to a bar on a Friday night in a college town. Sure, fans will watch the fights and likely see a great fight between Smith and Lawler, but if Kimbo flatlines Thompson in the opening :30 seconds of the fight, those same fans sitting at that bar will be talking about that fight the next day and maybe even the next month.

Entertainment will grab viewers’ attention, and a fantastic knockout by Kimbo Slice will only up his drawing power and captivate casual fans to want to see him again. I’m not sure how people don’t “get it”.

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April 9. 2008 10:38

From reading that excerpt, I don't think Iole's problem is with Kimbo being in the main event, but with Thompson being there. I'm not trying to defend the man, but that's how I interpret his response to the question.

Dedwyre us

April 9. 2008 13:01

Thompson being on the event is perfect for Kimbo. Why you may ask? He's a glass jaw that Kimbo can spectacularly KO with a much larger viewership watching.

LR us

April 9. 2008 16:39

I don't think he is questioning Kimbo being in the main event, I think his complaint is with Thompson.

As an MMA fan, I do agree with his point. This is a shitty match and we will have to hear Shaw and company blather on about Kimbo being a star and top notch fighter. Star? Sure, but he needs to fight somebody that is not a corpse.

But as one that follows, and understands, the business side of MMA, it makes sense.

They were talking about Waterman before. That would have been a very dumb move. Waterman has the skills to take Kimbo down and beat him in a uneventful manner.

Thompson will walk right in and swing for the fences. He is a huge guy and that will impress new viewers.

This is not a great match-up, but it is a sensible one for EliteXC.

Jeremy us

April 10. 2008 03:38

As an MMA fan... that's exactly why you disagree with the assessment. It isn't about the fans when building a fighter and potentially pushing the promotion to new levels, at least not for the hardcore fans.

The casual fanbase is much, much larger, and it'll produce a big fight. Waterman was an interesting pick, and he is an alternate in the YAMMA tournament. If someone gets hurt, he'll be an able guy to throw in and see how he does.

Thompson may have a surprise up his sleeve. He's been training at Xtreme Couture. Hopefully they can work his cardio enough to condition him for taking a few more blows to the chin before flatlining, but Thompson needs to use his size for a takedown.

LR us

April 10. 2008 04:35

I agree. There are actually many things Iole "doesn't get" when it comes to boxing and mma.


I have no problem with this match. When you have a marketable fighter, it’s important to build him up gradually. Kimbo is still a guy that has only had two pro fights. The fight against Thompson is designed as a chance for Kimbo to showcase what he does best, and not expose any of his flaws. This is no different then the UFC feeding Mark Coleman to Brock Lesnar.

If Kimbo is fighting the James Thompson’s of the world a year from now, then I will have an issue. But for now, I plan on watching the card and enjoying it for what it is.

CHris us

April 10. 2008 06:17

Iole's generally a turd but, as other commenters have said, his gripe seemed to be more with JT getting to be in the main event than Kimbo.

As for the the decision to make the Kimbo fight the main event and not the Lawler/Smith fight, I believe that if you had the Lawler/Smith fight the main event, many people would tune out after the Kimbo fight. Making Kimbo the main event you have people tuning in to wait for the Kimbo fight and hopefully watch the whole card. I'm betting Lawler will make end up making some new fans with all the people that were actually tuning in to see Kimbo.

Captain us

April 10. 2008 08:03

Thompson has been working with Extreme Couture for some time now, and lost twice under their supervision.

As I said, I understand the bout and why it makes sense. I just don't want to listen to Shaw blather on about Kimbo being a top HW.

I like the Zuffa rule of putting the title bouts in the main event slot. It may not always be the most heavliy marketed bout on the card, but it is put in the top slot.

The Lawler/Smith MW title bout is likely to get lost in the mix. That is exactly what you DON'T want to do with your championships.

Just look at the old WCW.

Jeremy us

April 10. 2008 10:35

Actually... that was my fault putting Kimbo Slice in the sentence when the rest of the article is arguing Thompson as a good pick for the event.

But anywho... Iole is dead wrong here. How is James Thompson a HORRIBLE pick? He's a glass jaw to knockout fantastically and make people talk. I'm not sure Iole sees the business side of all of this, and I think he has misunderstood who the casual fan is.

LR us

April 10. 2008 11:12

LR, people aren't stupid. If JT gets KOed in under a minute, fans will feel dupped for thinking that this was a fight that actually mattered. Iole's complaint is that JT is not a credible opponent and shouldn't be the headliner (the guy just got owned in his last fight). Yeah people want to see excitement, but American fans also believe in drama and competition. They will expect more from a main event fight. EliteXC could get lucky and Kimbo and JT could turn in a Griffin vs Bonnar like performance, but its unlikely given their prior fights.

Either way Iole is far from "dead wrong."

GameCritics us

April 10. 2008 13:14

GC,

I never said the fight was a fight that mattered. Nobody is claiming that this is a great fight, but it's great thinking to produce a potential star.

Once again, another person is underestimating the power of the casual fanbase... the majority of the mixed martial arts fans are casual. Do you really believe that a majority that rarely watch other events saw Thompson get knocked out in his last fight... probably not.

I never claimed he DESERVES to be a headliner, but he definitely brings the possibility of being crushed by Kimbo, only upping Kimbo's stock to casual fans. Sure, fans aren't stupid, but if the Sherdog forums or random people I meet on the street who watch MMA are any indication, Kimbo could come out a big star from this. You're right, people aren't stupid, but casual fans and new fans watching the event will want to see Kimbo fight again. I wasn't claiming he was going to suddenly become the next Fedor.

Iole is dead wrong, period. How can JT be such a terrible main event pick for Kimbo Slice, of all people? Does he have to all of the sudden take on prime competition? Why? Why take on a threatening fight when you make a record live gate fighting Tank Abbott? It's the perfect fight, in my opinion. Not really a threat, and it will provide a win for Kimbo with new fans and a much larger audience watching.

LR us

April 10. 2008 16:25

WHY EVEN WRITE A STORY ABOUT IOLE'S WRITING.

HE IS A COMPUTER DORK WHO DOESNT EVEN KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ANACONDA CHOKE AND A KIMURA.

A TOTAL HACK REPORTER

tommy us

April 11. 2008 09:08

LR, there's a difference between violence for the sake of violence (dogfighting) versus violence taking place in sport (seeing who is the best). You are the one who is underestimating casual fans if you think that casual fans don't care about legit competition and only show up for the blood. Part of the reason of why the UFC is so successful is because they provide the casual fan with a sense of structure and organization that resembles a professional sports league like the NFL/MLB/NBA. The casual fan may not explore past the confines of the UFC, but that doesn't mean that they don't care about championship titles and who the top dog is.

If spectators don't think Kimbo is credible as a main eventer, they will boo him. JT vs Kimbo could portray Kimbo as not being a credible fighter if there is a fishy/strange outcome (which there is a strong chance of happening given JT's class jaw). That is why this match up isn't a good idea.

GameCritics us

April 11. 2008 20:47

GC,

I'm going to have to side with Leland on this one. JT is the perfect opponent for Kimbo. He's a massive guy, and it will look incredibly good when Kimbo is able to dismantle him with a few short punches.

I've watched tons of events with newcomers to the sport, and you know who their favorite fighters are? The ones that produce viscous KO's. (Chuck Liddell)

J Schmitt us

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