Hardcore fan perspective: We dislike Kimbo Slice?

by Leland Roling 5/30/2008 7:20:00 AM
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I’ve refrained from commenting on Kimbo Slice’s main event tussle with James Thompson for the mere fact that I had a premonition as to the absurd comments that other writers would begin making when it came to who likes Kimbo and who doesn’t. It seems that the blogosphere is beginning to become what many Chicago radio personalities and opinion-editorial columnists call “a haven for absolute crap rumors and analysis”. While I think my analysis has been fairly accurate over the years and it shows in my betting account, I do take offense to the assumption that hardcore fans are outraged that Kimbo will be representing MMA in this new era of network television.

Reading posts day in and day out and reading Wetzel’s rant about how Kimbo isn’t good for MMA right now, I’ve come to the conclusion that I really don’t care what happens with Kimbo Slice in the long run. Analyzing the current landscape of MMA, it continues to grow, but will stalemate without some type of progression in how it is perceived by the general public. Moving to network television is a step in helping others accept it as a legitimate sport. We can go through the numbers: deaths are lower, more skills are used, safety is first, and the list goes on and on for hours. The fact of the matter is that Kimbo Slice isn’t going to kill MMA’s chances of growth. Eventually, the UFC will make its way to network and put on a show in a more professional manner with some of the best fighters in the world at their trade.

While I’m not discounting the CBS and EliteXC can pull off that kind of show, I will say that I’m skeptical. However, I’m not going to bitch and moan about the main event between Kimbo Slice and James Thompson. People are writing long posts about how Kimbo Slice is horrible for this sport because of his appearance, his attitude, how he has had a low amount of fights, and how he hasn’t fought a single competitive fighter. Here’s a scenario…

CBS comes to you, asks if you’d like to buy some time on Primetime television, and you jump at the chance to get your promotion major coverage. At the time, Kimbo Slice just knocked out Tank Abbott and grabbed the largest gate ever for the promotion. What are you going to do? Go with your hottest product at the time coupled with other hot products (Gina Carano). Many fans act like they don’t understand why Kimbo is the main event, but it’s obvious. It's so obvious that it's unbelievable that we have hundreds of articles littering the blogosphere that can't believe it!

Don’t be ignorant. That’s the lesson. Hardcore fans really don’t care what happens with Kimbo Slice. He will either win and continue to cruise until he fights someone legitimate, or he’ll lose and fade into the black. Either way, what does it matter to those of us who’ve followed this sport for so long? Why should I be bitter that Kimbo made a splash into the sport without really paying his dues by fighting competitive competition? It isn’t his record that gets him a paycheck; it’s his legacy on the Internet, his drawing power, and his style of fighting.

His fate will be determined in the coming year. Hardcore fans watch tons of MMA every year, and we see more than our fair share of spectacle fights. Japan is great for a plethora of spectacle fights that are there to sell events. This is no surprise to us. The sport could be damaged, but it won’t die, and it’ll always have a solid drawing in the United States, especially for the UFC.

BloodyElbow writer Collin Welsh writes:

Hardcore fans dislike his quick rise to main event status, don't trust his skill outside of hitting hard, and firmly believe that he will fight over hyped tomato can after tomato can. Time will only tell if this will be true or not, but for now appreciate his story. MMA hasn't ever had a story like this or a character with such universal superstar potential. So sit back ,relax, and  enjoy the fight. People like Kimbo Slice don't come around too often.

Actually, I don’t dislike Kimbo for his rise to main event status. I understand the business, and I’m not going to dislike the guy because Gary Shaw felt he had the most drawing power. It’s absurd to believe fans as knowledgeable about the sport and about the business would believe that.

Do I think Kimbo will fight can after can? Probably, but what do I care? He will eventually have to fight a legitimate opponent, and EliteXC will eventually have to produce better fights. If he continues to fight can after can, the promotion will die. It’s like the universe will self correct itself. Why should we be so worried?

To be perfectly honest, I wouldn’t want to know a hardcore fan that is as stressed out as Collin has described above, nor do I know any who are that crazy about how Kimbo is a main event fighter. The view being portrayed in that article is likely that of the MMA blogosphere, and not necessarily that of hardcore fans everywhere. Sure, I want this sport to succeed and CBS/EliteXC could portray is badly, but telling me that hardcore fans dislike a certain fighter because of his quick rise against tomato cans is a stretch. If anything, we understand the reasoning behind it.

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May 30. 2008 09:23

That's a refreshing take on the Kimbo Slice phenomena. A lot of "hardcore's" treat MMA like a child that they've watched grow up. Often, they have some pretty strong opinions, assumptions, and attachment to the sport in its purest form. I definitely have fallen into that category. The hardcore's have made so much effort over the years to "spread the gospel" and fight to convince the mainstream that MMA is less about pure uncontrolled brutality and more about technique and athleticism. Kimbo represents, in many people's eyes, a direct blow to all of the efforts that have been made to legitimize the sport given his background. The thing is, as you've mentioned, in order for the sport to continue growing, it has to be sold to the average uninformed mainstream audience. A fighter like Kimbo, with his sensational backstory, can do that because that's often what the mainstream audience wants. Kimbo is the attraction that gets them in the door to watch the show and as long as that happens it gives the more "legitimate" fighters a chance to be showcased. This in turn may lead to the average fan wanting to investigate the sport further thereby fostering a whole new generation of hardcores.

Chuck ca

May 30. 2008 14:19

I don't dislike him, but I'm certainly not going to watch him. I think the people going online and gettting excited about him seem to be full of shit. I certainly don't trust them. Ha ha.

Every fighter should get a bum for their first MMA fight. After that, it should be sink or swim time. Prove you belong in the world of professional fighting or get out.

I don't want MMA to be a sport where stars are picked and protected. It hasn't been until this Kimbo Slice came along. At least not so glaringly and unavoidably noticable. Pretty soon, they'll be doing that for every "marketable" fighter. And I'm sure we'll get a lot of defenders of that practice. Then MMA will become an unwatchable sport and only the hardest of the hardcores will remain and they will have to accept watching fights where one of the fighters has almost a 99 percent chance of winning.

Mattio us

May 30. 2008 16:36

I think a lot of the crap Kimbo and EliteXC has gotten is just that, crap. Oh, Kimbo will set the sport back 10 years? Of course not, he'll be in there and it will be a KO within 3 minutes. That's the same as non-experienced strikers on any local show. I've seen many of local MMA events in MN, and if they are both strikers it never ends in round one. How can a striker, who had boxing experience, and now ground with Bas Rutten be damaging to the sport? The UFC has already made this from a freak show to a sport. First jujitsu dominated, then wrestling, then striking. Now of a complete game.

He got fame from the net, and now made a transition. That's fine, same as Brock Lesnar too. They both train MMA and have a good camp, so what's the big deal? The big deal is the internet writers, who are hardcore and love Pride 10x more than the UFC. They think "side shows" will kill the sport, but look how that went in Japan, and Kimbo/Lesnar aren't even sideshows either.

Is Kimbo bad for the sport? I think it will get 4.5 million viewers, and for that, no. If Thompson took it to the ground and kimbo subbed him with a triangle, which is possible too, the internet would go fucken nuts.

Kimbo by KO, which everybody expects, but let's call it here first, Kimbo by triangle. The only person in the world to say that but Thompson will get rocked, take him down, and he will finish it that way. I'll be wrong probably, but if not, I got it in text for everybody to see Smile

xx2000xx us

July 17. 2008 11:32

kimbo is a dumb nigger. period.

danny bonaduce us

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